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Sarion
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14/08/2019 5:20 pm  

I feel there have been very few discussions about domain mechanics, i believe that the framework for domain mechanics will reflect that in Birthright ROE,  adapted for change in realm archetypes.

Will holdings directly reflect the 5 domain types or will all domains focus on multiple holding types? 

Will a similar Province levels/holding system be used, or do you plan to change to a "population" based holding system?


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14/08/2019 5:34 pm  

Hi Sarion,

We will open the playtesting to the backers real soon.

The core mechanics are based on BR concepts. You will recognize the holding types and the province level (even if the names are different).

Domains usually focus one type of holding but nothing prevents players from having holdings of different types.

Obviously, new concepts have been added, such as corruption, special features for provinces or the new mechanics for building infrastructure.

Pilgrimages and Bardic Trails have also been added next to the Trade Routes and Ley Lines. And so on.

Keep an eye open for the newsletter with the link to the playtesting files 😉 

Cheers.

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Sarion
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15/08/2019 8:10 am  

So how many types of holdings are there? Law, Manor, Temple, Guilds, Ceres Source? And pilgrimages, Bardic trails, Trade routes and Leylines as inter province "holdings"?


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15/08/2019 10:00 am  

Order/Faith/Trade/Magic/Culture 

Trade Routes, Pilgrimages, Ley Lines and Bardic Trails are all connecting holdings indeed and offer various benefits. 

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Sarion
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15/08/2019 3:59 pm  

Do Order holdings act as a combined Law, and Manor holdings?  Do order have something else than a connection holding, the province itself?


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15/08/2019 4:08 pm  

I don't know what you're referring to with "Manor holding". An Order asset indeed represents the same thing as a Law holding.

As I said, you'll be able to register for the playtesting very soon, just a bit more patience 😉 

 


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Sarion
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16/08/2019 7:59 am  

Hmm are there any incentives to specialize in a few types of holdings rather than all of them?


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16/08/2019 9:44 am  

Holdings of a different type than your main type cost double.

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Sarion
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16/08/2019 4:42 pm  

Does this include, the relevant inter realm holdings?

Like Trade and trade route are both normal price for a trader?

I feel we might see some totalitarian states where the ruler tries to control everything within the realm.


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16/08/2019 5:01 pm  

In theory it is possible but considering the number of actions per turn and the income, it is very unlikely.

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Sarion
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16/08/2019 5:09 pm  

I could still see a wizard in a remote province, with total control in the province.

But the main cost of is properly diplomatic, as you would have no domestic allies and will properly be run over because you don't have allies.


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16/08/2019 5:19 pm  

There are 2 factors. One, you don't earn that much as a mage and should you want to control all assets, you will need a lot. Two, you're totally right, you may win against one Faction but not against all neighbors.

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Sarion
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17/08/2019 8:08 am  

I had a thought, how does the holding limit work is SoW, is it the simple province level equal max holding level?

Or have we spiced the model up allowing holdings above the max nominal holding capacity, who merely end up spliting the same income for that holding in that province?


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17/08/2019 1:04 pm  

We thought of different systems but in the end we came back to the initial province level limitation.

It just seemed to be the most effective, balanced, controlled way to handle this.

Besides, if you can only share the income of 10 level of holding, I don't see the added value of raising holdings above that limit...

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Sarion
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17/08/2019 8:33 pm  

Going beyond in the way i suggested is effectively a option for soft expansion against a rival spliting of some of their income, a diplomatically more lawful way rather than starting by burning rival holdings, a innocent looking seed of war.

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